Susan: No, it isn't. Greg:  Where did you travel in addition to Kentucky to do research for the book? ‘I don’t think he’s a horrible maniac, he just injures your innocence,’ Oates would famously say about the director. The home is gone now and a trailer is on the lot now. Greg: Despite the budget limitations that you struggled under, it doesn't seem like that seriously constrained … Oates found his way back to TV, doing remakes of True Grit (the stock Western TV bad guy was now playing a John Wayne character) and The African Queen (all through his career Oates had been called ‘the new Bogart,’ and now he was playing a role Bogie originated). It's not easy. Oates was good friends with Robert Culp and Steve McQueen; he would act against Warren Beatty and Rip Torn and Paul Mazursky. Welcome! But if I had to do something else like an interview or whatever, I could decline their offer of work on a specific day if I didn't want to. He was all over the place, wasn't he? Greg:  With regard to all those fantastic shooting locations you described in the book, where were the exteriors for Stoney Burke filmed? Susan:  Oh, probably four years total. Greg:  So he picked up and moved to California, where work was becoming much more plentiful? pdg1075 | Greg:  While we were communicating about setting up this interview, you mentioned that about a third of the book was edited out to make for a more reasonable purchase price? He wrote in his diary that it was fortunate that they got it in that one take because Warren wouldn't have done it again. For my money, Warren Oates: A Wild Life is the finest biography since 1998 when Ronnie Pugh's Ernest Tubb biography hit the shelves. Warren Oates died of a heart attack in 1982. Susan:  It is. If we tracked down Jimmy Carter today and asked him about that I don't know what he'd say, but he'd probably acknowledge it. It's already a pretty expensive book, I realize. SL HEIDEL | Read Supporting Features: Writing and Interviews on Movies and Moviemakers book reviews & author details and more at Amazon.in. I did the cutting so that was a good thing. And Charles Willeford, the author of the novel Cockfighter was also an actor in the movie. For instance, in one scene he pulled the head off a chicken. But other than that, his interest in Zen and road trips and all sorts of other interesting things seemed really in step with our times as much as the times that he lived in. He would make a point of shying away from television talk shows and interviews and anything that presented him, a private and even shy man, as the focal point.... Read Online Download PDF Cite this … Susan:  Oh, it absolutely was. July 01, 2009 at 09:42 PM. Greg:  And I was able to read quite a bit of it online. Susan:  That's right, in 1965 he appeared in a Los Angeles stage production of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. I'd like to thank Susan for sharing several unpublished Oates photos (including above right, showing Oates in makeup for The Brink's Job) and for indulging me while I fumbled through my Brian Lamb impersonation. And fortunately it worked out. Susan:  He did make an episode of Hawaiian Eye. Only 80s Kids Will Remember That Arseface Is Based On A Real Person | Birth.Movies.Death. The rest of this week I’ll be taking a look at films from the Warren Oates canon that prove he was much more than just a character man, even when he wasn’t playing a lead. Greg:  That's too bad. July 01, 2009 at 12:38 PM. The 70s seemed to start out inauspiciously with his pal Peckinpah reneging on giving him the lead role in The Ballad of Cable Hogue, but 1971 ended up what Peter Fonda called ‘the year of Warren Oates.’ Oates played in two seminal, unfairly obscure films that year - as GTO in the brilliant Two Lane Blacktop and Arch Harris in the almost sublime The Hired Hand (there’s another 1971 movie, Chandler, a film noir homage that sees Oates playing a PI, but the film isn’t terrible good. I tried really all the mainstream publishers here and in England and I got kind of close (to a deal) in England but I never really got very close here. The Linda Evans interview was edited for clarity and brevity and sequenced cohesively. I'm still waking up at 4:00 or 4:30AM and it's ridiculous. Susan:  Yeah, it was mainly because those were hours that I could really concentrate, and the phone wouldn't ring and no neighbors would make noise and pretty much no dogs weren't barking. We had our last day Friday and it was rough to the bitter end. Which was actually really worthwhile. But he also loved to work and had a modesty about his work that didn't preclude his taking supporting roles. Susan:  It is. At the time of his death he and Peckinpah were on the outs, and the director was specifically told not to come to the funeral. It's about the director and is by Nick Dawson. Warren Oates interview by Alan J. Warren and F. Albert Bomar. There was a period in the early 70s when Oates - almost always relegated to supporting roles from which he handily stole entire films - was the best actor working in Hollywood. I remember my father telling me about having drinks with Warren Oates in 21, of all places, the most sublime restaurant and having drinks with the hat check guy Warren Oates when he finished his shift. « Don Dohler Double Feature – The Alien Factor and Fiend | That must have been a kick, the pair of them because Willeford was a real character. He wasn't much of a student? Greg:  When you set out to write the story of Warren's life, did you have any specific audience in mind or any targets you were shooting for in terms of the kinds of readers you were trying to attract? Susan:  That's right, so unlike Sam Peckinpah, who went to Korea, Warren didn't really see any action. Greg:  And between high school and college, he spent some time in the military? I know that they were supposedly remaking it. Susan:  That's definitely true. Greg:  And they were probably mostly motivated to participate because of Warren's Kentucky roots? Oates hated it and said that he knew it was a stinker three days into shooting). It’s a phase that’s especially weird when compared to the films that were closest to who he was, films that were about loners on the edge of society and dropouts and rebels. (Laughing) Sometimes even Dixie Dynamite, which is fun to watch. And also, he did not graduate the University of Louisville and in fact I think their relationship is still a little bit uneasy because of the fact that he was not a full-fledged graduate. I think that one really, really does. I had Wild Oates, but they just didn't go for that. Oates’ best work was his friend Sam Peckinpah; the two understood each other in a deep and soulful way. The church he attended as a young boy is still there and it's really kind of the center of what's left of Depoy. Not just Ben Johnson on the screen, but Ben Johnson in every aspect of his life. I can't wait, it should definitely be fun. Susan: Exactly and also to cut the length. The same was true of Peckinpah, who never made another film even close to as good as Alfredo Garcia. Greg:  One actor that Oates appeared with on a few different occasions was the veteran actor Ben Johnson. Greg:  I would assume for an author, that's the best way to go? Warren Oates Celebrity Profile - Check out the latest Warren Oates photo gallery, biography, pics, pictures, interviews, news, forums and blogs at Rotten Tomatoes! EVEREADY HARTON: The 1928 Animated Porno Of Your Dreams. It was shot it in April and released in July, just three months later. Susan:  He definitely looked up to Ben Johnson and I think Johnson was very fond of Oates in return, but maybe with not quite the same fervor. I mean, every person I mentioned somehow interested me in some way, so I would go off on some tangent about this or that person, or restaurant, or place or motel. Dennis Hopper had Oates swept up for Kid Blue, a movie better known for the insane antics behind the scenes than the film itself. At first I wasn't so sure it would be, but the BFI had some really great archives like an interview with Peter Fonda and Warren Oates at the National Film Theatre, which is one of the few audio interviews I was able to dig up. The musical version of Tom Sawyer intrigued Oates because he wanted to sing; in the end he doesn’t do any of his own singing. Greg:  In the midst of all this writing, were you still working full-time? After the film the two became friends and would go hunting near the Peckinpah family land in Central California (a perfect look at who Oates was as a man - he would end up getting disillusioned with the cruelty of hunting and give it up). He quickly traded the snow for the desert, though, as the opportunity to work with Peckinpah came again, and this time it would be their greatest collaboration. And I think the fact that the life was, to me, kind of alarmingly contemporary, like it could be lived today in many ways. That's the one that got away. He got hot right away and it was just one show after the next. I had no idea how much fun and how interesting the it would be. Susan:  There certainly are. Main And while I'm going to see Public Enemy tomorrow, and am sure Johnny Depp did a fine job as Dillinger, Warren Oates will always be the cinema Dillinger for me. What made Warren Oates so badass was the way that he simply didn’t give a shit what people thought. He has been writing about movies online since there was a 21st century. Ask questions, get answers. Peckinpah died two years later. And he spent the money just as quickly as he got it, but he was definitely doing fine and was not starving anymore, unlike his years in New York. PLEASE let me know where I can get that shirt. Oates starred in numerous films during the early 1970s that … In 2000, director Richard Linklater helped assemble a … In the meantime, consider picking up Susan Campos’ Warren Oates: A Life, without which this article wouldn’t have been possible. Greg:  While on the subject of punk rock, I couldn't help noticing that John Doe wrote the forward for the book? Greg:  He certainly seemed to stay busy. Susan:  I did. The 1970s were a time when character men were leading men, and no one personified that better than Oates. Television: Daytime Talk Shows by Richard Corliss. SO, WHERE DID THAT GUY GET THE OATES T-SHIRT??!!?? And UK is in Lexington about an hour away. Of course, there's no way Warren could've known that the man he was talking to had a young daughter who would one day grow up and write his biography. I was a good experience and a great time to do something like that. How do you like the title? I think as recently as a couple of years ago in Scotland it was banned again. This looks awesome now where is the Harry Dean Stanton bio? It sounds like you were able to view at least a handful of the Stoney Burke episodes? Oates had enjoyed working with non-actors on Two Lane Blacktop and so working with non-actor Eskimos in White Dawn - Philip Kaufman’s underseen film about whale hunters stranded in the Arctic - was no problem. What can you tell us about that? They had that, so it was really worth it the trip to England. He left high school before graduating. ; New to Wikipedia? An unearthed interview finds “The Virginian” reminiscing on Warren Oates, Joel McCrea, a maverick director, and… jeremylr.medium.com James Drury’s brush with greatness — Encountering genuine article John Wayne [PART TWO OF THE JAMES DRURY INTERVIEW] It must be somewhere, but unfortunately even his biographer couldn't come up with a copy. A Few Queries for Monte Hellman. It was filmed in and around Atlanta and you wrote about some very notable visitors that dropped by the set during filming:  the Allman Brothers and Jimmy Carter, who was then Governor of Georgia. So maybe it was that, or maybe he was never asked, I don't know. : Put new text under old text. Greg:  As an actor, he made a lot of interesting choices in terms of the roles he accepted. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. But it's hard because there's no money. What was that like? But I have to think that there are mixed feelings in the writing world about this instant free access. And I suppose it probably really was too long. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia was shot in Mexico, the place where Peckinpah felt most at home, and Oates was playing a dissolute drunk that he based almost entirely on the director. It's definitely in that vein, but it's set in more of a punk or goth world. He attended Louisville Male High School in Louisville, Kentucky, until 194… He didn't do that one. Greg:  When it comes to Warren Oates movies, I assume you probably have a handful of favorites? Not all that far from where I am living these days. We just never did work it out, which for me was unfortunate. It's ridiculous how fast that movie came out. Susan:  Yeah, I think he didn't like to say no to anything pretty much. Susan:  Yes, the chicken wasn't alive at the time, but they filmed that in one take. Moving the Reel to Reel Catacombs to a New Site - A Very Special Last Post - Featuring Dora Hall!! One night years ago while re-watching one of my favorite films, Sam Peckinpah's "Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia" I started researching Warren Oates and found out he was born in the small Kentucky town of Depoy. Greg:  In the back of the book in the acknowledgments, there is a brief mention of the fact that your father and Warren Oates crossed paths? And I love that in the book because, again it's sort of anti-academic, it isn't so formal, but yet it was so heartfelt and really eloquent, too. So I went to North Carolina. Greg:  Given the fact that Jack Lord starred in Stoney Burke and Warrren Oates was his sidekick, I've always wondered if there was ever any talk about a Warren Oates guest appearance on Jack Lord's Hawaii Five-O. I think he was fun to have on the set, for the most part. "Stoney Burke was a surprisingly textured and superior series of its time. I wish I could have seen it. Pretty much by and large he took what came his way and that opened up a whole lot of venues for him. July 02, 2009 at 09:35 AM. And I think he was both happy with that and also kind of conflicted. I think in a lot of ways my  publisher kind of corrected my tendency to go the other way and make it too pop, I guess, and corrected me more toward a middle approach. At the time of release many critics agreed with him, but in the decades since it’s become obvious that while The Wild Bunch is his most entertaining and important picture, Alfredo Garcia is his masterpiece. Maybe such roles came easy to Oates because they were in his blood; a Revolutionary era ancestor had come to Kentucky as he fled the North after killing a man. He even stole Peckinpah’s trademark sunglasses for the role. Pot, Rock and Revolution - Another Reactionary Filmstrip Soundtrack (MP3's), "Lucky Fights It Through" and Other Romantic Encounters, Johnny Cash and Friends Present: Singing Rice-Ipes (MP3's), Seeing Color TV for the First Time - A Tape from 1966 (Exploring My Reel-to-Reel Catacombs, Volume 66) (MP3), « Don Dohler Double Feature – The Alien Factor and Fiend, Bobb Trimble and the Flying Spiders live at WFMU (mp3's) ». So that's a lot of time and it's a lot of your life to give up, but I'd definitely do it again. Well, I mean disregarding things like TMZ, which would have torn Warren to pieces, you know? And if it were any longer, it would be ridiculous. Warren Oates said that he was always a character man, but that just wasn’t true. So I took the job of a substitute teacher for students in grades K through 12 and I took abuse from children in the Los Angeles public school system. In fact it almost seems like a joke when Oates is bullying Bill Murray in Stripes; Murray seems like an acorn off the Oates tree. Then it was the 80s, and Oates began to enter the ‘tough authority figure’ phase of his career. Greg: And in the course of writing the book, you visited Depoy? Warren was one-of-a-kind [ Author’s Note: Visit “ That Guy You’ve Seen but Can’t Remember His Name ” for an in-depth interview with Oates biographer Susan Compo]. Posted by: During the Great Depression, John Dillinger (Warren Oates), a ruthless, arrogant criminal, is the most wanted man in America. This past semester I took an intro to Video Production class and our final project called for a short film with a length of 2-3 minutes. The Warren Oates and Sam Peckinpah relationship was a complicated and ambivalent one full of extremes. He really enjoyed the opportunity to give his all and he really liked working with William Friedkin, who pulled a lot out of his actors. Susan:  I hope so and I think so because I don't think there was anything that was wanting except for the fact that I couldn't find his first wife for love or money, I just couldn't find her. He didn't really have an illustrious career there. Greg: Did you get to play a role in what was edited out or was that handled at the publisher's office? Who chose that title? In fact, he recommended people not go see. Warren was kind of worried about what Ben would think if he knew about the fact that Warren had a few joints here and there. See more ideas about warren oates, actors, character actor. Journal: London by Gilbert Adair, Paris by David Overbey. I wish I could walk right into that world, right now. I mean, he did say no to things like the car salesman movie Used Cars (1978), toward the end of his career. He loved the film anyway. Greg:  I was looking over the filmography in the back of the book it seems like he frequently worked for the same directors on numerous occasions. In the case of actor Warren Oates, he was born in small Kentucky town in the heart of coal country, Depoy. In terms of the types of movies he made, he was in a lot of westerns, gangster movies, detective stories, horror-action movies, a musical, drive-in movies like Dixie Dynamite. Greg:  He did seem to be a guy who was always infected with wanderlust? Then it was the 70s. I have interviewed Warren’s biographer Susan Compo regarding Warren Oates: A Wild Life. His brother, Gordon, was five years his senior. The decade for which Warren Oates was made. Greg:  Despite the budget limitations that you struggled under, it doesn't seem like that seriously constrained the length of the book too much. He found some success on TV, and fell in with a group of actors who would define their generation. Among the gemsShadows of the Thief,A Very Big Man,Alibi, andUncle Azry, they would have seen a guest interview with Warren Oates. When was Warren Oates born? Oates had been offered the lead role in the film that would eventually become Support Your Local Sheriff, but he turned it down to join Peckinpah’s ensemble. And then he moved to New York? It is and I didn't necessarily see that coming. Movie Reviews Great Movies Collections TV/Streaming Features Chaz's Journal Interviews Cast and Crew Warren Oates Find on IMDB. It’s the role that changed his life and defined his career. Interviews over time. Susan:  Yes, that was when Warren lived in New York and was working the hat check counter at 21. Greg:  How long did he spend in New York? That’s a good description of Warren. He is very proud that there is a strong Warren Oates following these days. Greg:  Let's start things off with a question about the title of your book, Warren Oates: A Wild Life. They also came to hate each other - friendships between hard drinking difficult men rarely last. Greg:  So this was your first non-fiction book, is that correct? The mainstream press just seemed to always say "there's no room for that on the crowded biography shelves" or something along those lines. Posted by Listener Greg G. on July 01, 2009 at 09:00 AM in Books, Film, Listener Greg's Posts, Television | Permalink, Posted by: There's not much left of it today. Greg: Let's go back to the beginning. Features Blu-ray Consumer Guide: April 2, 2014. Susan: Depoy...a little town in western Kentucky. It wasn’t that Oates played men reluctant to action but rather men who were careful when it came to action. Maybe it was the era or the type of movies he chose to make, but sometimes he would shoot a movie and it would come out as little as 3 or 4 months later. Terence Malick wanted Oates to star in a 12 hour long movie about the Jazz age; the two would eventually work together on Badlands, where Oates had a small role as Father. If I were really being honest, I think that's one of the reasons I wrote the book. They've done some very good film books. I would think it would be a good project for someone to pick up and easy to do....so maybe it'll happen. | Bobb Trimble and the Flying Spiders live at WFMU (mp3's) ». The Wild Bunch came at a dark time in Oates’ life, after his second marriage had crumbled and he found himself left out of the many Oscar nominations for In the Heat of the Night. And it's dropped off a bit since then, but I could look on Google and see how many people were reading it while at work and who can blame them sometimes?. I think he would liked to have been a bigger headline star. Find on Wikipedia. Culp, who had moved to Hollywood in 1957, soon dragged Oates out and the actor made his Western debut in Have Gun Will Travel, playing a rascal. Susan:  It does. I find it hard to think of a contemporary actor who could do what he did with those roles in a back to back fashion. Another of his most acclaimed performances was as officer Sam Wood in In the Heat of the Night (1967). Not because he was particularly tough, although he could - at times - hold his own. Of course, I bought a copy anyway. It would be wonderful to have, though. Greg:  And just for those who haven't seen the movie, he actually pulls the head off a chicken onscreen? Books: Rex Ingram by Liam O'Leary, reviewed by Michael Powell. I don't know what ever happened to that.... Greg:  The remake is listed on IMDB.com as having a projected 2011 release date. Oates died way too young, and it’s tempting to imagine what he might have done if he had lived to see the indie film boom of the 90s. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia by Kathleen Murphy and Richard T. Jameson. What kind of impact did Johnson have on Oates? (Laughing) I think Warren would've liked it, too, but I don't know what he would've made of us as punk rockers. Glenn Kenny | 2014-04-02 Recent titles … Rough and murderous but also vulnerable and childlike, Lyle Gorch had the same dichotomy as the hard drinking, womanizing and yet loving and tender Oates. Perhaps the shade of Robert … Notebook Interview. And I think he was a really really good writer, too. Greg:  There are hundreds of television roles and guest starring appearances listed in the credits in the back of the book. Famous People Famous Men. At first I wasn't so sure it would be, but the BFI had some really great archives like an interview with Peter Fonda and Warren Oates at the National Film Theatre, which is one of the few audio interviews I was able to dig up. That's right, then I'd go somewhere and do some research or maybe go to a library and look at some microfilm or check something else that would take me out in the world in the afternoon. Greg:  In doing research for this interview, I came across references to what was probably your earliest writing and publishing venture: a punk fanzine in Southern California. And, yes, Jimmy Carter also came by and sort of gave his blessing to the proceedings and told director Monte Hellman that his family had engaged in cockfighting for several generations back in the day. zombek | He was kind of hard to predict. He was a struggling, absolutely starving actor but he picked up some work in television and theater. Greg:  One thing that I found interesting was that in your acknowledgments....you mentioned that you wrote the book on the most threadbare of shoestring budgets. Steve | July 02, 2009 at 04:57 PM. 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